File 025110
Email Chain About Sleep and Dreams Research Project (File 025110)
Email correspondence between Robert Kuhn and Jeffrey Epstein discussing a proposed Closer To Truth TV series on the neuroscience of sleep and dreams, with expert analysis from sleep researcher Patrick McNamara on recent breakthroughs in sleep science.
Summary
This email chain from February to April 2017 documents discussions between Robert Kuhn and Jeffrey Epstein regarding a Closer To Truth television project on sleep and dreams research. Kuhn provides detailed scientific analysis from Professor Patrick McNamara (Boston University) explaining recent breakthroughs in sleep neuroscience, including the distinction between REM and NREM sleep, memory consolidation, immune system function, and neuroplasticity. The correspondence includes references to the Kuhn Foundation (a 501(c)(3) private operating foundation established in 1999) and discusses the timing and scientific justification for the proposed TV series.
From: Robert KuhnSent: 4/8/2017 5:56:40 PMTo: jeffrey E. [jeeyacation@gmail.com]Subject: Re: Kuhn - The Science of Sleep and DreamsImportance: HighGot itnnvOn Apr 8, 2017, at 5:41 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:will be back in new york wed . happy passoverOn Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 2:28 AM, Robert Kuhn <Ij> wrote:Just arrived NY, here for —10 days.Now with the Trump-Xi Summit over (utterly overwhelmed by Syria strike), back to Closer To Truth.When good to meet?RobertOn Mar 23, 2017, at 4:23 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:Look forward to seeing youOn Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:54 PM Robert Kuhn < > wrote:Hi: Just returned from a month in China. Attached is my summary of recent politics (in South China MorningPost), and pics of moderating (at request of govts of China and Israel) the PM's discussion with leadingChinese technologist (Baidu CEO, dominant Chinese search engine). The PM was in China for 25thanniversary of diplomatic relationsBack to CTT, my 'true love'... Love to discuss Science of Sleep & Dreams project. I'm in LA for week andthen NY April 8-18.Warm regards, RobertOn Feb 15, 2017, at 1:29 PM, Robert Kuhn i> wrote:501 (c) (3) - private operating foundation - The Kuhn Foundation, which I set up in 1999 to support Closer ToTruth. IRS letter attached.Thank you.HOUSE OVERSIGHT 025110<Kuhn Foundation IRS Tax Exempt Determination Letter 1999, 2015.pdf>On Feb 15, 2017, at 4:17 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:is it a charity that received the funding?On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Robert Lawrence Kuhn <1> wrote:Pardon the formality below - I want to approach your very legitimate questions / concerns in a seriousmanner.Attached and below the same.Dear Jeffrey:As requested, the following addresses your two questions / concerns about our proposed Closer To Truth TVseries "The Science of Sleep and Dreams":(i) Have there been sufficient breakthroughs in Sleep and Dreams (significantly beyond traditionalunderstandings) to justify a major TV series?(ii) Even if 'yes' to (i), is now the proper time for such a foundational series, or are more years needed forcorroborative studies and further research to solidify the breakthroughs?In preparing this response, my primary source is Professor Patrick McNamara, Department of Neurology,Boston University School of Medicine, with whom CTT Producer/Director Peter Getzels and I spoke with atlength today. Patrick is one of the leading sleep and dream researchers (he himself more dreams). Moreimportantly, he is perhaps the leading chronicler of the field, with many publications (including 26 entries inrelated encyclopedias). He is co-editor-in-chief of the "Encyclopedia of Sleep and Dreams" (2012) andthe sole author of the forthcoming "An Introduction to the Neuroscience of Sleep and Dreams" (CambridgeUniversity Press, 2018), which intends to present the latest science and to become a main textbook forgraduate courses/seminars. Patrick is a CTT contributor and colleague.When we asked Patrick, his first response — "This is the ideal time to tell the sleep-and-dreams story" — andhe cited (in essence) your two questions, in that (i) the multiple breakthroughs are now sufficiently wellcorroborated by numerous independent labs such that a substantial foundation for the new, deeperunderstanding of sleep and dreams is now for the first time (over the past few years) confirmed andestablished, and (ii) there are now interesting application and critical clinical questions to pose, explore andpursue, such as for the treatment of various mental-related illnesses that have known sleep-related syndromes(e.g., PTSD and Depression).To understand the significance of recent breakthroughs, a defining characteristic of sleep and dreams is thatthere are two distinct kinds of sleep — REM (rapid-eye-movement) Sleep and NREM (non-rapid-eye-movement) Sleep. Most dreams are associated with REM sleep (though complex). The eye movementgives the eponymous name, but a more important designation defines the two stages in terms of brain waves(electroencephalograph — EEG): REM is Fast-Wave Sleep (similar to the waking state) and NREM Sleep isSlow-Wave Sleep (very different from the waking state). This difference between REM and NREM sleephas been known since 1953 (different EEGs since 1937), but its deep significance has only been discoveredand confirmed in very recent years (as explained below).HOUSE OVERSIGHT 025111Following are the key areas of breakthrough in sleep and dreams (from Patrick). Patrick states that these arenow reproducible, non-controversial, and well-accepted among experts, although still not appreciated by thepublic - hence the high value of our CTT TV series. The organizing idea is why and how are sleep anddreams essential for normal memory consolidation and bodily health / well-being.Memory Consolidation. There is a fundamental difference between REM and NREM Sleep for memoryconsolidation: REM is for emotional memories, whereas NREM is for declarative and procedural memories.Hence, understanding and dealing with REM emotional memories can lead to treatment for the manyneuropsychiatric illnesses that have sleep/dream-related disorders or syndromes (Parkinson's Disease,Anxiety, Substance Abuse, many sleep disorders such as Nightmare Disorder, etc., in addition to PTSD andDepression). Research shows bi-directional causality between neuropsychiatric disorders and sleep disorders.This is a superb example of how fundamental science breakthroughs lead to clinical breakthroughs. This factthat REM is associated with emotional memories is nicely consistent with the apparent psychotic nature ofdreams, because in REM Sleep the frontal cortex is 'down-regulated' (and the frontal cortex is associatedwith rational planning, reflection, controlling impulses), while in REM Sleep the limbic system is 'up-regulated" (and the limbic system is associated with emotions and feelings) — see Neuroimaging below. Thisis why dream states flood the ego with emotional fantasies without rational control. However, it is also truethat the limbic system enables creative ideas, thus grounding in science the long-suspected idea that sleepand dreams can enhance creativity.As Dr. Robert Stickgold, our other advisor on the series, wrote: "It would be nice if we could talk about sleepand memory as if there were only one type of memory and one type of sleep. But this is far from the case.Sleep and memory each comes in many forms, and furthermore, memories can go through multiple forms ofpost-encoding processing that must be individually addressed."Immunity / Immune System. Strengthening the immune system is now a proven product of NREM sleep.Discerning the evolutionary basis for this is a key research project (i.e., it seems counter-intuitivethat sleeping facilitates fitness for survival in that predators lurked in the jungles and on the plains so thatgoing unconscious during sleep does not, at first glance, seem especially adaptive). Studies of sleep invarious non-human animals reveals a direct relationship between longer periods of NREM (Slow-Wave)Sleep and a stronger immune system, especially in fighting parasites. NREM Sleep releases molecules thatfight inflection; NREM Sleep works for the maintenance, repair and activation of the immune system. (Thisgives scientific rationale for the need or desire to sleep during illnesses.) Related are "genetic conflict"studies with respect to REM and NREM, showing differences in heredity between material and paternallines, and differences between males and females in which genes get "imprinted".Neuroplasticity. Exciting recent research has reversed the century-long conventional wisdom that newneurons are never created in adult animals/humans. The development of new neurons — neuronogenesis — is avital part of maintaining normal brain and mental functioning. New neurons are being created, importantly,in the hippocampus (brain organ where new memories are encoded) — but, remarkably, the neuronogensis inthe hippocampus occurs only/largely during REM Sleep — a stunning finding. This is another reason whyREM sleep is needed for emotional memory consolidation (normal functioning).Dream-Content. Although dreams have sparked human fascination and fantasy for thousands of years, onlyin very recent years, have large-scale surveys been conducted with rigorous design, classifications andstatistical analysis. Literally hundreds of thousands of dreams are enabling statistically significant theories,including cross-cultural analyses (similarities and differences). Dream-posting sites have revolutionized sizeand structure of dream data sets. This enables, for the first time, longitudinal studies of dreams over time.Patterns are repeated. For example, in general, the dreams of males and females differ in fundamental ways.Males will engage in fighting with other males; females with both males and females. Male dreamersare often the initiator of fights and the fights are usually physical. Females fight verbally. AggressivenessHOUSE OVERSIGHT 025112by the dreamer is almost always in REM Sleep, rarely in NREM Sleep. (Why is a continuing question.)"Lucid Dreaming" is a new area of fascinating research. Lucid Dreaming is where the dreamer "knows" thathe/she is dreaming while dreaming (a talent that a small minority possesses but more can betrained/developed). Lucid dreamers, while sleeping, can now communicate with experimenters by alteringtheir brain activity and thus becoming detectable by neuroimaging techniques (see below).Neuroimaging. Finally, neuroimaging technology has enabled many of these breakthroughs. As such, it isitself a methodological breakthrough that has enabled these other content breakthroughs. Neuroimaging nowenables detailed location of the neuroanatomy and neurophysiology of REM and NREM Sleep. InREM Sleep, the dorsolateral, frontal cortex is "down-regulated", whereas the limbic system is "up-regulated", showing the physiological basis for the emotional, wild-fantasies of dreams (see above).(Neuroimaging will enable good visual images for the TV series without extra costs.)Patrick stresses that while these breakthroughs form, for the first time, a solid foundation for understandingsleep and dreams, they also open opportunities to dig deeper into the "purpose" of sleep and dreams, as wellas engender a new series of questions and directions (e.g., clinical treatments of illnesses).Attached is Patrick's quick compiling of summaries of a few recent leading research papers (2009 — 2017,especially 2015-2017).You'd enjoy speaking with him, if you want.Love to do this series together with you.Much appreciate and warm regards,Robertplease noteThe information contained in this communication isconfidential, may be attorney-client privileged, mayconstitute inside information, and is intended only forthe use of the addressee. It is the property ofJEEUnauthorized use, disclosure or copying of thiscommunication or any part thereof is strictly prohibitedand may be unlawful. If you have received thiscommunication in error, please notify us immediately byreturn e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, anddestroy this communication and all copies thereof,including all attachments. copyright -all rights reservedplease noteHOUSE OVERSIGHT 025113The information contained in this communication isconfidential, may be attorney-client privileged, mayconstitute inside information, and is intended only forthe use of the addressee. It is the property ofJEEUnauthorized use, disclosure or copying of thiscommunication or any part thereof is strictly prohibitedand may be unlawful. If you have received thiscommunication in error, please notify us immediately byreturn e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, anddestroy this communication and all copies thereof,including all attachments. copyright -all rights reservedplease noteThe information contained in this communication isconfidential, may be attorney-client privileged, mayconstitute inside information, and is intended only forthe use of the addressee. It is the property ofJEEUnauthorized use, disclosure or copying of thiscommunication or any part thereof is strictly prohibitedand may be unlawful. If you have received thiscommunication in error, please notify us immediately byreturn e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, anddestroy this communication and all copies thereof,including all attachments. copyright -all rights reservedHOUSE OVERSIGHT 025114